tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post407603402250282856..comments2022-03-25T03:05:54.035-07:00Comments on Auto Care & Maintenance Advice: Bonehead Award: Engine Oil Flush MachinesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-60850325394127362192011-07-14T13:54:14.901-07:002011-07-14T13:54:14.901-07:00WHY would FORD tell me I need an engine flush on m...WHY would FORD tell me I need an engine flush on my Mustang at 15,000 miles? I'm not a kid and I don't drive her rough. Granted I don't put a lot of miles on her, BUT I do take her on the freeway every now and again. <br />Did I get ripped off?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-35410195566404788452011-06-13T05:14:20.644-07:002011-06-13T05:14:20.644-07:00I work with people that offer these flushing machi...I work with people that offer these flushing machines and services. Yes they try to oversell it, just like ANY other industry in this planet. But engine oil flushing is only necessary when there is too much sludge in the engine. If you follow your service intervals you never have to flush your engine. And BTW, IF your vehicle's manufacturer requires an oil flush, you must do it for the warranty to stay in effect. Otherwise, you'll only save a few bucks to lose a few thousand if and when your vehicle fails due to some manufacturing issue.<br /><br />Vehicles are a waste of money, everyone knows that. So suck it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-56953999218826708432011-05-29T08:00:35.780-07:002011-05-29T08:00:35.780-07:00Four weeks after engine flush my engine blew. I ha...Four weeks after engine flush my engine blew. I had no problems with my engine before this. Do not do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-54641371953484756282011-04-23T06:15:28.667-07:002011-04-23T06:15:28.667-07:00FYI,
288,000 mi on my 3.8 L Ford Vulcan engine. ...FYI,<br /><br />288,000 mi on my 3.8 L Ford Vulcan engine. No oil passage flushing to date, just regular (i.e. 3,000 - 6.000 mi) oil changes. Although not mentioned by the article, I'd be most concerned that the bearings will have been cleaned of oil by the flushing solution. Finally, I once lost a camshaft due to oil sludge buildup (failed to change the oil properly). When repairing it, I found the sludge was fairly impervious stuff to the solvents I applied. I doubt until verified that a mineral oil would be able to remove it.<br /><br />-TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-84683543998222441972011-04-01T19:47:51.335-07:002011-04-01T19:47:51.335-07:00I am 70 years old and have been playing with autom...I am 70 years old and have been playing with automobiles for approximately 56 years after building my first hot rod at age fourteen. I have enjoyed playing with old luxury classics so you would think that people with money have the money to change their oil as it should be changed. Records indicate they do. This last car that I am finishing up is a "98 Jaguar XJ8 Vanden Plas. The maintenance records for this car indicate oil changes every 2,500 to 3,000 miles. The mileage is just barely over 100k. I partially tore the engine down to replace the known parts that go bad before they go bad such as the timing chains and tentioners, etc.. This engine has only been ran with a full synthetic oil. There are signs of sludge building up below the valve covers. There were also indications of sludge starting on the inside of the timing chain cover. Jaguar also has small metal screens within the engine that are only reachable by tearing the engine down. This engine acts as if one of the screens are partially clogged. I've used a Blistein r-2000 for over ten years. I used to drag race until 1974 so I'm used to tearing an engine down frequently. The engine flushing machine I have used does an excellent job of cleaning up the inside of an engine. The proper way is to drain the oil, run the flush for twenty minutes or more if you are working on something else. Drop the pan and clean it out, change the filter and do it for the second time. Anyone with any knowledge of engines know that when you build a new engine, you crank it for two minutes without the main distributor wire in order to lube the engine prior to starting. The flush machines cleans the engine thoroughly if used as I stated. Simply start the engine as you would when building a new one. The author of this article meant well but if you read carefully you will get the impression he has no practical knowledge of automotive engines. He is right that many places rip people off but that does not negate the use of mechanically flushing an engine out. I've never experienced an engine oil that would keep an engine clean unless one changes the oil every 500 to 1000 miles. I would also venture to state that sludge buildup begins as early as 30k. It is the break down of the additives with the oil that create the sludge. City driving is murder on engine oil. I recommend flushing your engine at least every 20k but only with a mechanic that you trust. It needs to be done right in order to do what it is suppose to do for your engine. These oil additives are a joke. The 99% working ingredient in these products is nothing but kerosene called another name. If you read the author's article carefully, I would venture to say that the author is upset probably with Bilstein.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-87199234724271314462011-03-16T18:43:51.999-07:002011-03-16T18:43:51.999-07:00Let's hear it for Seafoam! Great stuff...my so...Let's hear it for Seafoam! Great stuff...my sons 2001 Audi A4 Quattro 1.8T(notorious for engine sludge) went low on oil. The low engine oil light came on. He changed the oil(always synthetic) and the sensor never cleared. I suggested he add Seafoam to the 3 day old oil change. It took 2 days but the sensor finally cleared. Never let your oil turn black. Change when a light brown in color.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-30997261100548211182011-03-06T08:11:37.614-08:002011-03-06T08:11:37.614-08:00we did this and the next day the engine blew :(
I ...we did this and the next day the engine blew :(<br />I say no to engine flush!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-55786135395740347172011-02-09T14:16:29.690-08:002011-02-09T14:16:29.690-08:00Hello People, I Went to a Castrol Lube Express a f...Hello People, I Went to a Castrol Lube Express a few weeks ago for an oil change, and Ta-Da! I was told I needed an engine flush on my '07 Chevy Uplander which I've owned for about a year now. Yes, I've given it an oil change every 3000 miles and didn't know about the controversy surrounding this issue. So yes, being concerned, I paid for the flush and a power steering flush as well. I can honestly say that I did feel a difference in performance afterwards in as well as a difference in steering. (the power steering seemed to be sticking a bit before). Now I cannot say whether or not this engine flush works, but I hope so as I did spend about $180 on this service. If it is in fact a scam, I can only hope that something will be done to outlaw such practices as not everyone is knowledgable about such things. Even when we try to be informed, we find different views on such issues which can further serve to confuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-45865407371137124802011-02-02T02:50:35.319-08:002011-02-02T02:50:35.319-08:00Whoever wrote this article is the bonehead and sho...Whoever wrote this article is the bonehead and shows this by contradicting himself over and over again. Here's an example.."The resulting loss of viscosity causes the oil to be less viscous. Adding ½ quart of solvent to a typical fill of 5w-30 motor oil will turn it into 0w-20 weight oil. This thin oil won't provide adequate engine protection, resulting in increased camshaft and bearing wear especially during cold startups. AND THEN...<br /><br />And since lighter oils are less viscous, they exhibit less engine drag. The thinner nature of the oil allows the engine to turn over more freely, thereby increasing less fuel requirement and lower emissions.<br /><br />Make your mind up, how do you expect to impart knowledge if you keep contradicting yourself. Ask any SAAB 93 driver if they have a problem with sludge and if regular oil changes are enough to solve the problem, I know from personal experience over 20 years of driving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-63792727401671729222010-08-04T09:16:10.728-07:002010-08-04T09:16:10.728-07:00guys, your motors WILL reach over 250,000 miles ju...guys, your motors WILL reach over 250,000 miles just with regular 3,000 interval oil change don't let them steal your $$$, It's always being like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-4861367669056822792010-07-29T09:57:30.151-07:002010-07-29T09:57:30.151-07:00i use a engine flush once a year , :sea foam: the ...i use a engine flush once a year , :sea foam: the product has been in service since 1942 and is fully guarranteed , also the same product can be used in the gas tank to clean out the fuel lines and jets , this is the only product i use , as it works and you can feel the difference in preformance in your vehicle .<br /> i always read up on a product before i ever use itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-63279449687866252312010-06-24T02:52:05.984-07:002010-06-24T02:52:05.984-07:00This article has some fair points, but engine flus...This article has some fair points, but engine flush that you add to the oil and run the engine before the oil change, DOES remove sludge and the viscosity of oil is not affected. As for needing heavy weight oil in colder weather, the truth is quite the opposite. Lighter oil flows better in cold weather, heavy oil thickens at cold temperatures and is not pumped fully around the engine for the first few vital moments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-48329099105012054432010-04-26T12:06:06.098-07:002010-04-26T12:06:06.098-07:00You really should research your subjects a little ...You really should research your subjects a little closer, or take this useless bit of info off the web.<br />To the article writer. First of all it is 3 years old and many things have changed in Engine Oil Flushing. Secondly, we have NO solvents in our solution. Secondly the US Government as well as the US Military says our services work. I await your call at anytime at 904-230-5414 to discuss further.<br />Lou Abbruzze, President owner, LSA Int'l.<br />But I am sure your call will never come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-15758347468532154142009-12-16T16:56:49.033-08:002009-12-16T16:56:49.033-08:00I had an oil flush and it killed my whole family, ...I had an oil flush and it killed my whole family, and caused a black hole to open east of the Tanza Nebular... Don't do it unless you want a complete disaster in karma...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-20218364250067163352009-11-11T08:06:08.706-08:002009-11-11T08:06:08.706-08:00Any comments to Motorweek (Pat Goss Garage) show o...Any comments to Motorweek (Pat Goss Garage) show of flushing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-7024886250144900652009-06-16T20:58:15.529-07:002009-06-16T20:58:15.529-07:00I had an engine flush....next day my engine blew.....I had an engine flush....next day my engine blew.....4k problem....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-10237166258468478352009-03-03T01:31:00.000-08:002009-03-03T01:31:00.000-08:00Shawn from Las Vegas, so what happened with your e...Shawn from Las Vegas, so what happened with your engine?<BR/><BR/>The Lube Shop I took my Suburban too recommended an enigne flush. THe truck had been sitting for 6 months and had only been driven 1,100 miles in 13 months. I took it in just for an oil change and the oiul come out thicker than a milk shake. Should I do the engien flush?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-31100325580722040432008-11-02T02:46:00.000-08:002008-11-02T02:46:00.000-08:00I have regularly used 10 minute flush, at every oi...I have regularly used 10 minute flush, at every oil change, in my Dodge pickup since I bought it new. It seems like a good idea to me as Chrysler seems to have a problem with engine sludge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-79958123162535451402008-08-06T19:02:00.000-07:002008-08-06T19:02:00.000-07:00Greetings from Las Vegas! I'm having the Mercedes...Greetings from Las Vegas! I'm having the Mercedes dealership flush my 1997 S500 this week. Seems I may have driven the car 20k miles without a documented oil change. I'm really not sure. -shoulder shrug- I switched over to Mobil One synthetic years ago. The car has 86k miles, so if they suggested it, I trust their recommendation after 11 years of great customer service. Will report back if/when my engine blows up, leaks a drop, or is low a half a quart within the week/month.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-78623225458549281442008-07-18T13:07:00.000-07:002008-07-18T13:07:00.000-07:00So how do you find an EDE Engine Flush service in ...So how do you find an EDE Engine Flush service in Houston, Texas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-59552523214914563142008-05-08T02:35:00.000-07:002008-05-08T02:35:00.000-07:00The author of this article gets the "BONEHEAD AWAR...The author of this article gets the "BONEHEAD AWARD" before spouting his great knowledge learn the subject.An EDE flush machine cleans with engine running every part is oil wetted, the filter can't clog as the machine filters in a dialysis loop. Then a rinse cycle neutralises the active non solent cleaner.Leaving a clean engine for new oilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-2671205830024514132008-04-12T08:28:00.000-07:002008-04-12T08:28:00.000-07:00Gotta question. Have taken apart the oil pan from...Gotta question. Have taken apart the oil pan from the block. Replaced oil pickup and screen. Decided to run marvel mystery oil mixture through motor, resulting in dislodged sludge and reclog of screen. What have I got to lose with an engine flush to reverse the clog of the screen and vacuum out residue in oil pan? The alternative is to pull the pan again, clean or replace the screen, and wait for the next clog. 132 k on motor.patesfordbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00779073335358637571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-42827341038812126192008-04-04T15:04:00.000-07:002008-04-04T15:04:00.000-07:00do not listen to this article whoever wrote this h...do not listen to this article whoever wrote this hasn't researched different flushes and the way they are made. I have worked on cars for 12 yrs as a hobby and you want to stay away from solvent based flushes only use mineral based flushes such as gumoutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-17869010383967746022008-02-28T11:08:00.000-08:002008-02-28T11:08:00.000-08:00The Express Lube where I got my oil changed last w...The Express Lube where I got my oil changed last week recommended an "Engine Flush". I declined and told them I would wait until next time. After searching online, I will definitely tell them "NO" in no uncertain terms next visit. I have an older car and cannot afford a new engine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5406287374195533775.post-29317403464708429682008-01-01T07:42:00.000-08:002008-01-01T07:42:00.000-08:00Ok so should I just skip the oil flush and just do...Ok so should I just skip the oil flush and just do the oil change (dino to syn)?<BR/>Would that be acceptable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com